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not the one asking to settle down." Then they tell me it is the man's role to buy his
woman a ring as a token of his affection.... to which I ask if she wants a business
relationship or love relationship, cause me having to buy a her a ring, so that she gets the
benefit of having just me, while I am limited to just have her, sounds a lot like a business
relationship. Sometimes, after joking about this a few times, I have had girls show up
with those cheap fake rings you can buy for 8 bucks. We have a good laugh about it. This
also works if the topic comes up at all when you meet them. Like when they ask if you
are married, you ask, "Why, are you thinking about buying me a ring?"
Also, I simply believe, if the girl has talked to me for 60 seconds, then she likes me and is
attracted. So I take the hot woman's frame even more. Teasing her about liking me,
flirting, touch her arm, then tell her I will charge her for any more. Or, by just being aloof
if I am not in the mood to flirt. A little arrogance mixed with good conversation, and a
little lack of attention on your part will send the message she will have to work for you.
And this brings us to listening, which wraps her frame, and teasing together. You see, no
matter how cute your line is, it will never be a good as if you observe her, and listen to
her, then custom fit that to her. For example, you wouldn't want to use the line "Nice
shoes, what are you 4'2"?" on a girl who was wearing very thin soles, like sandals.
But if the girl is tall, and wearing like 3 inch trendy boots, this is a perfect line. So when
you start interacting and talking, listen to her answers and watch how she tells you things.
Another example, if the girl tells you how she really hated the way her last boyfriend
spent more time with his guy friends than with her, and she says it in a kinda wispy,
almost remembering, way, then it is likely this girl loves the challenge, and wants a guy
she barely believes she can hold onto. If she made the same comment, but said it with
more anger or pain, then I would be willing to bet she desires more of the security of
being with a protective man, and that she will respond to a little politeness better.
Either way, I first empathize with them of how I know how that feels, and then, tease
them about how they will hate me, that I sound just like their ex and I spend more time
with my friends, etc.
Also, if you ask your questions right, she will give you more specific ways to win her.
For example, I was at a coffee date with a hot little 21 year old waitress. We were playing
back gammon and just hanging out. In the middle of the game, out of context, I asked her
something to the effect of "You seem normal, why don't you have a boyfriend. Did you
just get out of prison?" She kinda laughs, and tells me straight out that most men bore her,
and she is looking for a challenge. Well, I listened, and not only heard the words, but
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applied them. I knew she had my number, so I never did call her to ask her out, or say
thanks or even talk. About a week later she called me, we chatted and I got off the phone
fast. Basically I made myself a HUGE challenge. And we ended up dating till she went
back to school. Even while we were dating and now, I don't pursue her even a little.
Now Cliff, all this is bonded by one aspect of your personality. Your belief in you. Some
call it confidence, and it is, but it is also a little more. You wrote "As for listening, what
specifically are you listening for because typically women are very subtle in this area and
many guys play it cautious with them and don't pick up those clues", and you are right.
Women are subtle. I am sure I miss lots of their subtle signals, but the real problem is
men are cautious. David D. wrote in his book that he gives you permission to burn any
interaction with a woman. In case some readers haven't read his book I give you
permission to burn any interaction with a woman.
So, stop being cautious. Sometimes I say things that are just too arrogant. Rather than
apologize, or say I was only kidding, I just believe in myself, and I know, no matter how
it came across, I meant it as teasing, so I will look her in the eye and nod slowly and say
"yeah, I said it." Now, I say those words exactly like I was saying, "cummon, don't you
enjoy humor?" Most of the time the girls will punch you in the arm, or blush, and you can
watch the attraction go up. Mainly because I stood firm in myself without getting self
conscious or nervous or back peddling.
Women love men with balls (no pun intended). So when you tease, have balls. When you
approach, have balls. When you talk to other people, have balls. When you listen, have
balls. You don't have to agree with her, or everything she says. And in doing this I have
learned that you can get a women emotionally charged with a verbal conflict, and still
win them.
I learned this from one very hot woman I dated. I tried engaging her on several occasions,
at different times. Each time she would kinda respond, but immediately go back to
talking with friends and ignoring me. After one such time, I told her something to the
effect that no matter how good she looked, acting like a spoiled stuck up brat would
always keep her single. Holy shit, she tore into me. I was a dick, an ass, how dare I, etc...
I kept my cool, and just started smiling and leaning back and slightly nodding.
After a few minutes she finally clued in on my body language and asked why I was
smiling. I told her I knew she would probably be fun if I could just get past her bitch
shield. She laughed at this, we ended up talking and dating for 3 or 4 months.
As for getting good, I did it the same way I became confident. I screwed up a lot, and
kept doing it. I noticed after I started getting numbers, I had a large amount of girls
calling and canceling the meeting before we got together. So, just to see what would
happen, I started calling the girl before we were to meet and canceling the date. I would
just say something came up, and I was sorry I wouldn't be able to make it. I noticed
women I broke dates with start calling me. And if I set something up the next time, they
rarely broke the date. Also, when I had no shows (they stood me up), I would call them
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the next day, and expect the voice mail. I would leave a message to the effect of how
sorry I was I didn't show up, and I didn't have their number or I would have called, and
since I stood them up, I wouldn't blame them if they never talked to me again, but I just
felt I should call and at least say sorry. LOL Lot's of girls would call me back, and just
say it was no big deal, and if we set a second get together up, they usually showed. It was
weird. Now though, it's been a long time since a girl broke plans with me.
Clifford: I would like to know how you manage your women. Describe to me a typical
week/month in terms of how often you speak to them (who calls who), what you say to
them, how often do you see them, what you do when you are together (you described on
the DYD interview about a girl going on a date, coming home and then spending the
night with you - how exactly do you have these women set up and what did you say to
them to set them up this way?), etc. Do you treat them all the same basic way or are there
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