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Joan: "I'll tell you one thing. I was shown a picture of another city they are
building. What we're doing now to our planet is killing it little by little,
and it's going to come to a point where there's not going to be anything left.
I think that they're getting ready to start another world. And there will be
people who are a part of that. And it scares me, because I have trouble
dealing with what's going on in my life now because I start thinking, This
isn't really what's happening
. It is ending, and they're telling us that, an they've implied that to me.
What we are doing is killing ourselves. And that's scary."
Whitley: "Any other thoughts?"
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Jenny: "I think what she's saying in terms of the mediocrity of what we're
going through is only in the eyes of people around us, but that the important
thing is right here, and some of us really understand what is going on, and
maybe they are not 'them,' but they are us and we are them, so if you call
them 'them,' and say, 'They are looking at us, they are doing this to us,'
it's not right. They are us and we are them, and so. . ."
Whitley: "What happened to you?"
Jenny: "I'm not really sure yet because I've only had one hypnosis, but I
remembered something from when I was five years old, a very scary experience,
and I've always blocked it. From the time I was five I was afraid. And I saw
things in my house, I saw people in my house, and I would wake up screaming."
Whitley: "You mean, not human people?"
Jenny: "I don't know, they were shadows. Small things. I saw once this green
thing dripping down the wall. It looked like a very bright green triangular
light. And I went screaming into my mother's bedroom, and she said, 'Just go
to sleep. Obviously a dream.' And so those are the kinds of things I saw from
the time I was about five, and I never connected it with anything, until about
six months ago my sister said something to me about it, an experience that she
had that she remembered me being in, and I remembered it but I'd thought it
was a dream."
Whitley: "In February I had a triangular piece taken out of my skin on my
arm."
Mary: "The best way for me to live with this is just not to believe it. I
mean, there's a part of me that doesn't. The part of me that lives every day
doesn't."
Whitley: "How much of this experience have you had?"
Mary: "A lot, since I was about five."
Whitley: "How much, would you say? How many times?"
Mary: "Seven. Eight, nine, ten."
Whitley: "Has anything happened to anybody else you know?"
Mary: "My whole family. Neighbors, quite a few friends. From before I ever
knew them.
We've all just come together. Several generations."
Budd: "You said that there was one figure, one man  "
Mary: "There's always been one central figure."
Budd: "And he was nice?"
Joan: "Was he tall?"
Mary: "No, they were all little guys. He was my protector. Everybody else who
was around was always really very  they were doing a job they needed to do,
and that was it.
There was no  they weren't angry or mad or happy about it. They were just
doing what they had to do. But this one guy, in all instances, this one guy 
when I got scared he calmed me down, when I felt bad he made me feel better."
(Note: Others have had a very similar experience of a "friend" or a
"protector." The perceived sex of the guide is not consistently opposite, but
very often is.)
Whitley: "What does he look like?"
Mary: "He looked like all the rest, really."
Whitley: "Which is?"
Mary: "The same small people, you know, four and a half or five feet tall.
With the gray skin and the large heads and the big, fluidy, black eyes that
went on forever."
Whitley: "In other words, you wouldn't identify him as a human being."
Mary: "No, not in my town, anyway. New York is a different story. Regardless
of whether or not any of it was anything more than a dream or what, I know the
emotions I've had to deal with through the years have been real all the
anxiety that doesn't have any source."
Whitley: "Any of your kids?"
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